raising the dividend tax? >> it comes into this concern of mine about income inequality and wage inequality that is an epidemic in this country. we have so isolated at handful of women and men in this economy, purposefully. we have not only tolerated they're becoming inordinately rich, but we encourage it -- >> to pick on henry kravitz as one of the names, he pays those taxes and a capital gains transaction. he does charities. i don't know which ones. he does this, that, and the other thing. is that enough? >> it is not even close to enough. for every woman or man who is philanthropic, there are one doesn't want not. we know that the silicon valley people, enormously wealthy, are traditionally an philanthropic. mark zuckerberg notwithstanding. do not assume positive behavior out of trickle down. trickle down is a fraud. enriching the top of society out of the hope that it trickles down philanthropic way or otherwise makes no sense. >> a leo hindery, on ordinary income. not enoughthere is about elon musk. it is